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MessageSujet: New member says hi !   Mer 7 Juin 2006 - 22:20

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MessageSujet: Re: New member says hi !   Mer 7 Juin 2006 - 22:35

Sorry, but I prefer rather....

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MessageSujet: Re: New member says hi !   Mer 7 Juin 2006 - 22:56

Toasted americans and ketchup on the side!
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MessageSujet: Re: New member says hi !   Mer 7 Juin 2006 - 23:05

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MessageSujet: Re: New member says hi !   Mer 7 Juin 2006 - 23:32

I don't like this pictures. They are too morbid
We see as we are barbarians and cruel.
And I think this post should be written on another Web site.
Finally I don't like this kind of humor...Sorry
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MessageSujet: Re: New member says hi !   Jeu 8 Juin 2006 - 0:03

Theses photos are horrible.
Normally, they paid off their debts, the crime they committed why to show them as animals hunted?
It is incredible the difference between the French execution’s way and the American one.
For exemple,the offenders know his date
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/scheduledexecutions.htm
Everyone knows the last statement of every one
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/executedoffenders.htm
And the last statement is very different of the French execution

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MessageSujet: Re: New member says hi !   Jeu 8 Juin 2006 - 2:45

There might be a little contradiction in the way americans view the different methods of execution.
When the electric chair was introduced it was hailed as step away from the simple hanging as performed in the wild west.
The method of decapitation was rejected because of the mutilation of the the condemneds body.

But when you read about the experiments performed on severed heads and view the pictures on this site http://site.voila.fr/guillotine/teteschauffeurs.jpg ...then I think the french method of execution is as gruesomme as the american electric chair.
A chapter in a book I have read decapitation in the guillotine was called "You witness your own execution"
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MessageSujet: Re: New member says hi !   Jeu 8 Juin 2006 - 4:12

I am sorry to have disturbed you; I did not want to say this...
Fisrt, my English is poor and I wrote something a little bit stupid.
I did write English since I was in school...
I make my excuses; I do not think anything bad against Americans.

I do not want to enter in a sterile debate witch form of execution is more “humanism” but I want only to report you the picture of the heads was taken in “1909”, a long time ago!!!

But, in USA, I think, it is only my thoughts, and I can say something wrong, I think the form, the way, it is very different that in France was.
- In France, executions were at 4 o’clock of the morning
- In France, the master word was “quick” (…and pouf in the box!!!)
- In France, the offenders didn’t know when was scheduled the operation as the victims
- In France, the form of execution was the same to everyone (a little exception for parricide)
- In USA, the victims can be invited to see…
- In USA, we didn’t know who the executioner is.
- In USA, people can live in a death row a long time, even before 1976
- In USA, a part of the population justify execution by the religion (eye for eye)
- In France, executions must terrify the population (l’exemplarité)
- In France, executions were “traditional”, historic reasons, the same way for 200 years
- In France, until 1939, executions were public
- In Texas, there is not a lot of ‘Pardon’ of the governors (http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/permanentout.htm)
- a many different things more that I do not want to develop in English because I have a headache
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MessageSujet: Re: New member says hi !   Jeu 8 Juin 2006 - 11:36

I prefer guillotine than electric chair. Death is immediate and procedure is very short. At what time condemned people are executed usually? Is it very early like in France?

Fortunately, the last time USA used it was in 2004 and I hope they won't never use it in the future...

I am favorable to death penalty, but it must be as "human" as possible.

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MessageSujet: Re: New member says hi !   Ven 16 Juin 2006 - 17:56

I should probably not jump into this hot topic... but here it is anyway.

I don't think the electric chair is any worse than the guillotine. There is really nothing to prove that the "victim" remains conscient after the first few seconds. The body continues to show signs of life for several minutes but the same is the case with the guillotine (Heart beat for up to 30 minutes after the execution!) and hanging. The fact that it takes longer to "ensure" death is only due to the fact that a person could possibly survive electrocution and hanging (If the spinal cord is not broken) while a severed head is irreversible.

On the legal process I completely agree. Waiting years on Death Row completely defeats the purpose of justice and even offers a possibility that the person is truly rehabilitated while awaiting execution which is absurd since society has decided he will not be rehabilitated. The person that is executed is truly a "different" person from the one that committed the crime.

On the issue of knowing or not knowing the date of execution I think it is the same... maybe even worse in the French system as I have read stories of prisoners being unable to sleep and in great anguish every night not knowing if "tomorrow is the day" then relaxing only the next morning.

Finally on the attendance at the executions I don't think "the curious" should be allowed but family members of the victims (For closure) and the condemned (For moral support) + the press (No photos) and legal representatives do not bother me.

I also like the guillotine better than the chair but for aesthetic reasons only.
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