I wonder when the filmes were made... The Anatole is old; then probably about 1930-1938 ????? Were they all made at the same time????
Any opinion.....

I have no idea but your links are amazing.
It seem to have yet some paparazzis at the beginning of the last century.
Thanx a lot Piotr ! :cheers:

Very good! how can you find such goods movies and pictures? :cheers:

Tha was an accident,nothing more :-)
Untill yesterday I knew only three films connected with guillotine.
Two films from Weidmann execution and one from Hanoi.
My yesterday "findings" was for me simply astonishing too.
The films are unique and priceless(of course only for guillotine fans-of hahahaha)
I hope there are a more unknown similar films hidden deeply somewhere in archives
Only on God an Gordon Anderson knows ;-)

Dans une séquence il marche en se cachant constament avec un mouchoir.
Où peut-il marcher ainsi, dans un lieu désolé, extrêmement difficile à identifier.
Bizarre comme séquence !

D'autre part, comme je ne lis ni ne comprends l'anglais, peut-on me dire où est entreposée la voiture de Deibler dans ces séquences, je ne vois pas en quel lieu elle peut être ?

Non, non, pour autant que je sache, vous pouvez faire confiance aux découvertes de Piotr !

Oui, Deibler était connu pour éviter journalistes, photographes, etc... Mais il arrivait que ceux-ci, paparazzi avant l'heure, le harcèlent, et je crois savoir que c'est bel et bien le cas ici.

I discovered just now the march of time with guillotine was seen by "scottishmaiden" few years ago in BBC
http://guillotine.cultureforum.net/la-veuve-f1/the-march-of-time-t67.htm

and the question is still open: the films are true,fake or fifty/fifty?

Il est aussi possible qu'inflation et passage du temps obligeant, Anatole ait été contraint à autoriser un caméraman à le filmer moyennant finance [je soupçonne que les honoraires de l'exécuteur n'aient guère été réévalués dans l'après-guerre de 1918].

Donc un extra ??

Hello Piotr Thank you of your email. I have had this fooftage in my collection since 1984 I believe. (I also have a similar fnewsreel about his life with reinactmants of his youth and being told his father is the Bourreau etc. )I this video you have posted , The first shot is indeed Monsieur Deibler himself opening the shutters at his home --the rest are also actual shots of him with only TWO EXCEPTIONS. The close up of back of the man climbing into the fourgon is a fake --note the white hat is not the right color as Deiblers, whis is darker . The close up of the Guillotine blade is not the actual official French machine in use at that time but from one a museum . The FINAL SHOT of Deibler closing the shutters is a RECREATION WITH A DOUBLE. Note that the balcony in the closing shot ( a set) doesn't correctly match the one in the first shots where Deibler opens it. The iron is thinner and the iron work is much more delicate in the real opening shot and the balcony for the recreated set is made of much thicker and cruder material.Also note that the shutters do not match each other in the two shots. Greetings to all Gordon

Sublissime !

The FINAL SHOT of Deibler closing the shutters is a RECREATION WITH A DOUBLE. Note that the balcony in the closing shot ( a set) doesn't correctly match the one in the first shots where Deibler opens it. The iron is thinner and the iron work is much more delicate in the real opening shot and the balcony for the recreated set is made of much thicker and cruder material.Also note that the shutters do not match each other in the two shots. Greetings to all Gordon[/quote]

But maybe the Deibler's flat has a few windows with different shutters?????

BTW.The man driving fourgon has a beret.
One from aides in "Weidmann" video has also the similar one.

Piotr, My information I shared with you came with productions notes that were given to me with the footage . I don't know what a beret has to do with the change in Deibler's' hat as he is wearing a medium toned fedora not a pale one that is in the close of of the back of the man stepping up into the fourgon. Deibler was not wearing a beret for that matter, and Deibler didn't drive the fourgon. . Also the book THE MARCH OF TIME covers this episode with a discussion of the double for Deibler and also the balcony set built at Pathe. Gordon